Permanents FAQ

  • What is a Permanent?
    A Permanent is like a brevet but you can ride it any time by contacting the permanent organizer and making a plan together. Permanent rides in the US are validated by RUSA and they are for current members only.
  • Who can organize one?
    Any current RUSA member can organize a Permanent. For more information on how to set up a Permanent, refer to the Rules for Permanent Route Owners
  • How do I enter a Permanent?
    First check the listing of available Permanent routes. Contact the organizer well in advance of your planned riding date - at least four weeks is recommended. The organizer will provide you with an entry form (if required) and further information about the ride including options for proof of passage. Submit the completed entry form, liability waiver and fee (if any) to receive permission to do the ride at the agreed date and time. Obtain proof of passage at the start location and you can begin riding!
  • How do the rules differ between a Permanent and a BRM event?
    The rules for riding a Permanent are based on the BRM rules, but there are some differences. Please review Rules for Permanent Riders. If you decide to ride a BRM event, you'll want to review the Rules for Riders
  • Does a Permanent have to be a solo ride?
    No, you may ride a Permanent in a group with other RUSA Members.
  • Can I ride a Permanent on any day of the year?
    In theory, yes. However, the date you ride is by agreement between you and the organizer. An organizer may choose to make his/her route available only during certain months, and he/she may need to restrict certain dates due to other personal commitments or climate and traffic considerations. Remember, all organizers are unpaid volunteers working for your benefit.
  • Can I use a Permanent ride towards qualification for Paris-Brest-Paris or other foreign brevets?
    No. Permanents are not ACP-sanctioned. ACP will not recognize them for PBP qualification, neither will other organizers outside the US.
  • Can I use a Permanent to qualify for BRM, or other long-distance US events?
    This will be at the discretion of the organizer requiring qualification. A rider who wishes to use a Permanent towards qualification for one of these rides should contact the organizer well ahead of time. 
  • How quickly after my ride can I expect to receive my validated permanent credit?
    First, you are requested to submit your completed ride information to the organizer within 10 days of your ride. Organizers in turn are asked to submit the result within 10 days of receipt of your information. Validation will normally take place immediately. It is therefore reasonable to see validated credit on our website within a few days.
  • Can I use a Permanent toward earning RUSA's Distance awards?
  • How about the ACP Super Randonneur or R5000 award?
    No. Once again, all rides for these awards must be ACP-sanctioned.
  • I rode the same Permanent route twice in one season. Can I count both these rides towards the RUSA Distance awards?
    Yes. This includes repeated rides of the same route.
  • What kind of route makes a good Permanent?
    If you have a favorite long training ride, perhaps because it is especially scenic or challenging, this could make an excellent Permanent if it can be controlled. Point-to-point rides might have a theme, such as riding between state capital cities or national parks. Remember the controls need to be appropriately spaced, and situated to avoid shortcuts.
  • Can I ride a Permanent that I organize myself?
    Yes, as soon as it is posted on the website and available to everyone, you may ride it for credit.
  • Can I organize a Permanent that is less than 200km?
    Yes, to a minimum of 100km. A Permanent of 100-199km is designated a Permanent Populaire, and is subject to the same rules as other Permanents.
  • How many entries might I receive for my Permanent?
    This is impossible to answer! It will depend on the population of riders in your locale, and the type of route you are offering. Shorter routes normally attract more entrants. If your route is 1200km or longer, you may not see entries every season. 
  • I decided not to start a Permanent last Saturday because it was raining. May I ride this weekend if the weather is better?
    Unlikely, unless you and the organizer agreed upon contingency dates during the planning. The key point here is that the organizer must know ahead of time when you will be riding, in case they decide to set up a secret control or otherwise keep an eye on you. For the same reason, I hope you informed the organizer when you decided not to start the ride last Saturday. 
  • Will the route be marked with arrows on the road, like it sometimes is when I ride a brevet?
    Very unlikely. Since yours is probably the only entry fee the organizer has received, this will obviously not cover the cost of marking the route. It is highly recommended that you carry a good map or other navigation tool with you when riding a Permanent. 
  • May I start a Permanent from a location on the route other than the designated starting point, say, at one of the other controls?
    You may start your route at any timed control with the agreement of the organizer in advance of your ride.
  • Who do I contact if I have questions about Permanents?
    Go to RUSA Officials Search and select: "Committee Permanents" and click on the Search button.